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Ripples
Ripples in still water
When there is no pebble tossed
Nor wind to blow
- Grateful Dead “Ripple”
I don’t know where to start on this one. For some time I’ve been seeing concentric circular patterns on car windshields and car bodies – bands of white spreading out from a central point like ripples in a pond from a tossed pebble. Typically, they spread outward 3-10 inches or so before meeting up with ripples originating from another spot.
When I try to zoom in on the individual crystals, I usually see only vague outlines with the occasional recognizable form. What could cause this pattern?
Follow up:
In the image below, you can see a moat in the upper right corner, so I think this pattern occurs when there are many tiny droplets condensed on the surface. The dark parts between ripple crests may be imperfect moats.
The first idea I had was this. A fog of tiny droplets condense on the surface. But one spot is colder than other spots. A group of droplets freeze in this spot, and then grow from the vapor, thus sucking vapor out of the air. This creates a roughly circular dark moat around the relatively white crystals in the center. Slightly beyond the moat, where it is still colder than other regions, more droplets start to freeze, thus creating the second ring. The pattern repeats, producing concentric ring after concentric ring.
But there is one big problem with this idea. The center is dark, not white.
Anybody got any better ideas?
- JN
1 comment
As far as your dark spot is concerned, the seed for the polycrystal can be very, very small, but once growth begins in the liquid film, it progresses very rapidly outward. The central seed doesn't have time to grow very big before it is surrounded by new crystals that use up all of the available water. Also, if the film is very thin, the seed can pierce the surface of the liquid. Once broken, the liquid will pull away from that central spot due to the surface tension of the water, thus leaving an empty hole.
In any case, your mechanism sounds just about right. Even though the center looks dark, I would bet that if you could look very, very closely you would probably find a tiny seed that started it all.


